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Old 06-19-2009, 10:36 AM   #1
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Right up front I should say that I'm not looking to become a professional boxer. What I want is to have really heavy hands for one punch KO power in the cage or in the streets. I know that the tradtional way to build this is through boxing, but those workouts tend to be very tiring and highly dependant upon coordination and hand speed (things that I don't have in abundance). Would a more effective strategy be to try the training methods shown here?

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Old 06-19-2009, 10:40 AM   #2
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absolutely, that guy knows what the fuck is up!
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #3
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I didn't want to bias the comments, but i"ve never seen a professional boxer at any level get that kind of movement on a heavy bag before.
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oh yeah absolutely, this guy is a hidden gem in the combat sports world
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sammyfranco.com offers self defense martial arts street fighting

Dude, Fully, I've been on this guys warwagon for a long time. Sammy Franco is teh man. Best in the biz.
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Don't buy into that BS. There is no magic way to increase your punching power. Period.

"Power" when punching, is just like Golf. It's almost all pure technique. The best way, is to simply learn the basics of a good punch. Then practice that same punch over, and over. It takes more than 5000 repetitions to correct a poor motor engram. (Stored movement pattern, skill).

The only real way to increase it is, is to generally up your strength. I suggest a program like Mark Rippetoe Starting Strength. The prerequisites for power are strength, and speed. This program will help you with both.

Do not use weights like they're doing in the video either. They'll do far more harm than good, especially if you're a noob.

There is also no secret to a "One Punch KO" either. If you hit someone in the right spot, they're going down regardless of how much power you have. The key is being able to find that spot. You'll be able to easily once you've got proper technique.

Hope I helped.
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Originally Posted by eternal403 View Post
Don't buy into that BS. There is no magic way to increase your punching power. Period.

"Power" when punching, is just like Golf. It's almost all pure technique. The best way, is to simply learn the basics of a good punch. Then practice that same punch over, and over. It takes more than 5000 repetitions to correct a poor motor engram. (Stored movement pattern, skill).

The only real way to increase it is, is to generally up your strength. I suggest a program like Mark Rippetoe Starting Strength. The prerequisites for power are strength, and speed. This program will help you with both.

Do not use weights like they're doing in the video either. They'll do far more harm than good, especially if you're a noob.

There is also no secret to a "One Punch KO" either. If you hit someone in the right spot, they're going down regardless of how much power you have. The key is being able to find that spot. You'll be able to easily once you've got proper technique.

Hope I helped.
No offense, but this sounds like the type of advice I usually get from guys with substantial boxing experience. For that reason I typically write it off imediately due to obvious bias towards their method of training.
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Originally Posted by fullerene View Post
No offense, but this sounds like the type of advice I usually get from guys with substantial boxing experience. For that reason I typically write it off imediately due to obvious bias towards their method of training.
There is no bias. Period. I'm not a boxer, I'm a MT fighter. So that theory goes out the window. It's just a fact. Some stuff works, most don't.

Then don't ask. It's the only way to get what you're after.

The dude in the video is a goof trying to exploit people like yourself. That type of shit wouldn't even work against street level fighters.

You point out one single aspect of his "style", I'll show you 5 ways to counter it, and give you 5 reasons why it's BS.
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I'm not saying you couldn't do everything he does and more, eternal403. But I have seen a video of him punching a 60 pound water-filled heavy bag and I've never seen the same thing from you.

And, from a technical standpoint, it looks like he talks a lot and has a lot of drills with 6-8 people participating. That's the type of "advanced training" I'd like to get, rather than just doing a bunch of boring drills where you hit a bag or pads with difficult and tiring combinations.
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I'm not saying you couldn't do everything he does and more, eternal403. But I have seen a video of him punching a 60 pound water-filled heavy bag and I've never seen the same thing from you.

And, from a technical standpoint, it looks like he talks a lot and has a lot of drills with 6-8 people participating. That's the type of "advanced training" I'd like to get, rather than just doing a bunch of boring drills where you hit a bag or pads with difficult and tiring combinations.
That is not "advanced training". You'd be laughed at if you took this to any real gym. It's advanced bullshit.

There is begginer classes that are nice and easy to learn from. If you can't hang in any of those classes... take up golf.

LOL! Him punching this bag doesn't mean anything. So he can punch hard, big deal. How does that help him in the real world?

...and you never will see a video of me doing such pointless crap.

Take the first few seconds of the video you mentioned earlier. If someone was to throw at me, or anyone else that knows how to throw a simple jab like he did... he'd be toast. Think Kimbo/Seth.

Remember, the fastest way to you, is a straight line. So throwing a jab, would really mess this guy up. Simply because you'd beat him to the punch. He's throwing off the wrong foot, which is causing him to launch all his weight/speed towards you, without having the ability to retract it. So you wouldn't even have to put any power into it, just hang your left hand out there, and he'd walk into it bringing all of his own momentum with him. Sleep time.

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He also leaves his jaw up, don't need to explain that one. Even if he did tuck it in, it wouldn't help him here.

He doesn't guard with his left hand either, so wild looping windmill type punches would land aswell.

If I were to fight him, I'd step to the right and hit him with a rear hook. With all the factors I just mentioned... he'd be in a coma.

So if you want to learn a ton of pointless crap, that'll never help you in an MMA fight, or even a street fight... by all means do. But don't take this bullshit expecting to gain anything useful from it.

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eternal seems very erudite in the sweet science.
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Originally Posted by Sheikh Zubeer View Post
eternal seems very erudite in the sweet science.

...I try to be anyways.

It doesn't take any great striker to see what a joke this guy is. He reminds me of...


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Originally Posted by eternal403 View Post
Don't buy into that BS. There is no magic way to increase your punching power. Period.

"Power" when punching, is just like Golf. It's almost all pure technique. The best way, is to simply learn the basics of a good punch. Then practice that same punch over, and over. It takes more than 5000 repetitions to correct a poor motor engram. (Stored movement pattern, skill).

The only real way to increase it is, is to generally up your strength. I suggest a program like Mark Rippetoe Starting Strength. The prerequisites for power are strength, and speed. This program will help you with both.

Do not use weights like they're doing in the video either. They'll do far more harm than good, especially if you're a noob.

There is also no secret to a "One Punch KO" either. If you hit someone in the right spot, they're going down regardless of how much power you have. The key is being able to find that spot. You'll be able to easily once you've got proper technique.

Hope I helped.
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Originally Posted by fullerene View Post
No offense, but this sounds like the type of advice I usually get from guys with substantial boxing experience. For that reason I typically write it off imediately due to obvious bias towards their method of training.
if they are biasd to their training maybe it cause they spend hours doing nothing but punching.

If you want advice on punching i would ask a punching specialist aka boxer.

if you have questions about your teeth you go to a dentist. Do you write off what a dentist has to say because he is bias from the years of schooling they have dealing with teeth and teeth related issues.


im just saying...
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OK. How about doing a beginning boxing routine plus this workout?
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