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Rydawg · 11-25-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

Oh and you want to talk about "manufacturing wins"??

How about a QB who goes 20/26 throwing for 325 yards and 4 TD's against the 3rd best pass defense in the league??

Is that not "manufacturing" a win??

Yes and no, what I'm talking about is when you're not having the best game and say you throw 3 picks and still WIN the game. That's Manufacturing a win.

Kris P Lettus · 11-25-2008, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rydawg

Yes and no, what I'm talking about is when you're not having the best game and say you throw 3 picks and still WIN the game. That's Manufacturing a win.

Manning hasn't done that one single time all season..

I seem to be missing something here..

Relentless · 11-25-2008, 03:50 PM

yeah but the offensive line is easily the most important quarterback, and he lost his QB, he's pulling off important victories, divisional victories, i won't be shocked if the Colts don't lose another game this season

Rydawg · 11-26-2008, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

Manning hasn't done that one single time all season..

I seem to be missing something here..

Did I say that Manning threw 3 picks in a game and won? No.

You get a little personal when it comes to YOUR team....lighten up dude I'm agreeing w/ you for the most part.

Relentless · 11-26-2008, 10:23 AM

Manning is the best in the league, i'm sorry but right now, he is

Rydawg · 11-26-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Relentless

Manning is the best in the league, i'm sorry but right now, he is

I totally agree w/ that.....if I was a coach and the game is on the line, I want Peyton Manning under center.

Kris P Lettus · 11-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rydawg

Did I say that Manning threw 3 picks in a game and won? No.

You get a little personal when it comes to YOUR team....lighten up dude I'm agreeing w/ you for the most part.

What??

I'm not taking anything personally.. I just think it's ridiculous to say a QB, that statistically is having the worse year of his career since his rookie season, is the best QB in the NFL.. I also think that using the example of him having a bad game and throwing 3 INTs but still winning is also ridiculous cause that has not happened.. Be like me saying that Drew Brees is the best QB cause he can throw the ball 120 yards while getting sacked..

Relentless · 11-26-2008, 11:24 AM

He's having a bad season on his normal standards, but games where he's done bad he's manufactured wins in the toughest spots, the Texans game, and the Chargers just last week, you can't always go by statistics, you gotta go by how a QB controls the game and sets the pace especially in the clutch moments

Kris P Lettus · 11-26-2008, 11:25 AM

The same argument could be made for Brees though..

And he has better stats..

Kris P Lettus · 11-26-2008, 11:25 AM

Or Warner for that matter..

Relentless · 11-26-2008, 11:27 AM

the difference is Warner is in the worst division in football, that division is the NL West of football, it's awful, i don't think the Cardinals would be half as good if they were in say the AFC East...Brees threw 3 picks in a divisional game against a defense he should have had a field day with, made bad choices, Peyton has only lost 1 divisional game this season and that was to the Titans

Kris P Lettus · 11-26-2008, 12:27 PM

They lost to JAX in week three too..

They are 2-2 in the AFC South while we are 1-2 in the NFC South..

If you want to actually break it down, the team the Saints beat in our division, the Bucs, who are currently ranked FIFTH in the ESPN power rankings, are a pretty tough competitor in the NFC.. While the 2 AFC South wins the Colts have are over the Texans, who are currently TWENTY THIRD in the ESPN power rankings, are not a threat to anyone..

Do your homework before coming to school..

Rydawg · 11-26-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rydawg

The colts have been squeaking out victories each week, Manning isn't exactly blowing people away or anything this year he just knows how to win in almost every situation which is simply amazing to watch.

Originally Posted by Rydawg

Yes and no, what I'm talking about is when you're not having the best game and say you throw 3 picks and still WIN the game. That's Manufacturing a win.

Where in that statement did I say that Manning threw 3 picks and won the game? nowhere it's called an example of MANUFACTURING a win.

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

What??

I'm not taking anything personally.. I just think it's ridiculous to say a QB, that statistically is having the worse year of his career since his rookie season, is the best QB in the NFL.. I also think that using the example of him having a bad game and throwing 3 INTs but still winning is also ridiculous cause that has not happened.. Be like me saying that Drew Brees is the best QB cause he can throw the ball 120 yards while getting sacked..

Yeah that is ridiculous considering Nobody said that.......you using the example of Manning having his worse season since his rookie year is pretty irrelevant when it comes to him being the best QB in the league considering the fact that the colts are in a prime spot to make the playoffs STILL despite Manning's struggles. Brees may be STATISTICALLY the best QB in the league right now but he isn't the best overall.

Relentless · 11-26-2008, 02:58 PM

Numbers do not mean anything at all, Favre is leading in touchdowns but he's also leading in interceptions, Brees has thrown picks at the worse times and threw away his chance of getting MVP

jarwillie · 11-26-2008, 03:57 PM

Brady Quinn out for the year. A broken finger turned into torn tendons in his hand when he was in for the Texans.

Clevelands GM Phill Savage and Head Coach are officially on the hotseat and being watched closely by Cleveland's owner Al Lerner.

Just get rid of the fucks already.

I will take Kosar as the GM!

I really thought Kellen, DA, and Braylon were going to be the new Kardiac kids. I won't be shocked to see all 3 gone next season.

FUCK, there I go ranting again.