Swizzie

GracieFighter.com:

“We are confirming that EliteXC has folded. What this means for our fans and supporters is that there will not be a Nick Diaz vs. Eddie Alvarez fight on November 8th. However Jake Shields in the UFC has now become a real possibility. We will be updating our site for future developments.”

SteveBoogie

glad to see this fruit is going to finally get exposed

i'll again reiterate that the following UFC welterweights would beat him

GSP
Koscheck
Fitch
Alves
Serra
Hughes
Sanchez
that fat fuck Karo Parisyan
Chris Wilson
Dustin Hazelett
the stun gun
Mike Swick
Chris Lytle
Marcus Davis

maybes:

Y. Yoshida
Kevin Burns
Anthony Johnson
Matt Brown

Snuggles

While I agree he looked lackluster against Daley, and GSP would destroy him, he has several wins over more credible opponents than half the people on your list.

MW2 rules

Jakey may be headed to the ufc to be beheaded. nice .

please dana , Feed him to BJ or GSP winner . make it a point shields is nowhere near ufc welter talent .

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Paul Daley ftw..

Swizzie

Fitch vs Shields.

Snuggles

If everyone is compared to GSP or BJ, then they have almost no one with talent.

Swizzie

Which means they should step up their games.

Snuggles

As the sport progresses, and from what we have already seen, more and more high quality young athletes will come into MMA and there will be more BJ's, GSP's, and Silva's. We are rapidly moving in that direction.

SteveBoogie

well you're partially saying that because the half-the-wins-are-against-inferior-competition came in an organization where the wins came over guys who were inferior to GSP. it's relative. the 10th best guy in the UFC WW division is going to be better than the #2 guy in EliteXC, and if paul daley is the fucking barometer, then i don't think he'd be the 20th best guy in the division. look near the bottom of the list at a guy like chris lytle. how is he going to beat chris lytle? the standup discrepancy is silly, the ground advantage is not that great because lytle is too game to be submitted. all of the guys i listed are better than paul daley and jake shields can beat a certain TYPE of guy a lot of times but you basically don't make it to the UFC if you're not better than paul daley. name me 2 of those guys jake shields would beat and i'll tell you why he wouldn't. it's a skill-set-game, and nobody with standup as bad as jake shields can thrive in the UFC. nobody worth a shit has takedown defense that bad, and if it IS that bad then their BJJ isn't paul-daley-bad

Swizzie

Jake Shields jump-started his career with a win over Yushin Okami.

However at that time I hear, Okami was just a wrestler, who still needed to work on his overall grappling.

Snuggles

People look lackluster in fights all the time, sometimes it happens. That happens all the time to everybody. BJ Penn looked lackluster against Matt Serra. And yea, elite xc's #2 is worse than the UFC's number ten, but organizations outside the UFC don't really even have divisions, they sign the best possible free agents they can find. Shields has wins over Okami, Condit, Thompson, and Mach, more than most than the guys on your list can account for.

Yea, I don't think Shields can ever make it to be the WW champ in the UFC, but he certainly belongs competing with the other top comp there. I personally don't even care much about him but your extreme bias against him is obvious.

SteveBoogie

i don't really have anything against him it's more against the people who are making him out to be a really top-ranked guy. sure, give him a chance in the UFC, it can certainly be said that he deserves at least 2 fights. i just think he's going to fail in both and be let go, that's all.

Relentless

he would lose to a good amount of the UFC WW's, he is very overrated, but he is not a terrible fighter

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