Are Brazilians a threat to end the dominance of TUF fighters?

**fullerene** · 07-02-2009, 10:53 AM

Let's look at the facts:

HW champion: Frank Mir (sp?), former TUF coach, beat former TUF coach Nog for title
WW champion: George 'Rush" St. Pierre, former TUF assistant coach, beat former TUF coach and champion Matt 'The Terra' Serra for title
LW champion: BJ Penn, former TUF coach, scheduled to face former TUF finalist Ken-Flo for title

The only wrinkles in this are Machida, who lifted the LHW title from TUF champion Rashad 'Suga' Evans and Anderson Silva who beat former TUF coach Rich 'Ace' Franklin for the MW title.

So without the presence of the Brazilian fighters, who obviously can't be on TV because they don't speak any English, the UFC title picture would be completely dominated by TUF fighters.

Discuss.

SinsChampion · 07-02-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by fullerene

Let's look at the facts:

HW champion: Frank Mir (sp?), former TUF coach, beat former TUF coach Nog for title
WW champion: George 'Rush" St. Pierre, former TUF assistant coach, beat former TUF coach and champion Matt 'The Terra' Serra for title
LW champion: BJ Penn, former TUF coach, scheduled to face former TUF finalist Ken-Flo for title

The only wrinkles in this are Machida, who lifted the LHW title from TUF champion Rashad 'Suga' Evans and Anderson Silva who beat former TUF coach Rich 'Ace' Franklin for the MW title.

So without the presence of the Brazilian fighters, who obviously can't be on TV because they don't speak any English, the UFC title picture would be completely dominated by TUF fighters.

Discuss.

The only flaw in your argument is that Nog (a former TUF coach) is Brazilian.

DBHK · 07-02-2009, 10:57 AM

Mur's not the HW champ.

Camel Hound · 07-02-2009, 10:57 AM

Frank Mir is not a brazilian and neither is gsp or penn

please fuck off back to sherdog

El Duderino · 07-02-2009, 10:59 AM

They always have been, that's why Dana fn White does his best to keep them at bay

there i said it!

Monster Rain · 07-02-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by fullerene

Let's look at the facts:

HW champion: Frank Mir (sp?), former TUF coach, beat former TUF coach Nog for title
WW champion: George 'Rush" St. Pierre, former TUF assistant coach, beat former TUF coach and champion Matt 'The Terra' Serra for title
LW champion: BJ Penn, former TUF coach, scheduled to face former TUF finalist Ken-Flo for title

The only wrinkles in this are Machida, who lifted the LHW title from TUF champion Rashad 'Suga' Evans and Anderson Silva who beat former TUF coach Rich 'Ace' Franklin for the MW title.

So without the presence of the Brazilian fighters, who obviously can't be on TV because they don't speak any English, the UFC title picture would be completely dominated by TUF fighters.

Discuss.

They also can't be on TV because they're greasy jungle-dwelling, asshole lickers.

eternal403 · 07-02-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by El Duderino

They always have been, that's why Dana fn White does his best to keep them at bay

there i said it!

He'll be hating life soon if true.

If Alves beats GSP, that'll be 3 Brazilans with belts.

**fullerene** · 07-02-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by eternal403

He'll be hating life soon if true.

If Alves beats GSP, that'll be 3 Brazilans with belts.

And imagine if Lesnar does the unthinkable and wins that night, too!

That would make the score between TUF fighters and Brazilians 3-1-1 in favor of the Brazilians.

eternal403 · 07-02-2009, 11:49 AM

...what? Brock isn't a Silva.

**fullerene** · 07-02-2009, 12:01 PM

Brock is the last '1'...a tie...since he's neither Brazilian or affiliated with TUF.

flacman77 · 07-02-2009, 12:20 PM

Flawed logic and calculations....damn beer.

Urijah Fubar · 07-02-2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by fullerene

Let's look at the facts:

HW champion: Frank Mir (sp?), former TUF coach, beat former TUF coach Nog for title
WW champion: George 'Rush" St. Pierre, former TUF assistant coach, beat former TUF coach and champion Matt 'The Terra' Serra for title
LW champion: BJ Penn, former TUF coach, scheduled to face former TUF finalist Ken-Flo for title

The only wrinkles in this are Machida, who lifted the LHW title from TUF champion Rashad 'Suga' Evans and Anderson Silva who beat former TUF coach Rich 'Ace' Franklin for the MW title.

So without the presence of the Brazilian fighters, who obviously can't be on TV because they don't speak any English, the UFC title picture would be completely dominated by TUF fighters.

Discuss.

your a fucking tard

Dean of Lean · 07-02-2009, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by El Duderino

They always have been, that's why Dana fn White does his best to keep them at bay

there i said it!

ROFL Retard for agreeing to a troll post

A) GSP WW Champ, Was big before TUF, was shown very very little on TUF4, beat MAtt Hughes actually for the title, who was very popular and well known before TUF

Lost to Matt Serra, who was around before TUF and then beat him again. While all appeared on TUF. GSP was an assistant coach, Hughes 2x Coach, Penn Coach 1x Contestant 1X

The coaches are not groomed or produced by Tuf rather marketed Via Tuf because Zuffa chooses to market its better fighters to generate more interest in the sport.

Best foot forward approach....moving on

B) BJ Penn, had beaten Matt Hughes and held the WW Before Tuf and had fought for the title 3 previous occassions before TUF Came along...invalid argument.

C) HW Randy Couture Hall of Fame Pre-Tuf Beat Tim Sylvia, Never on TUF For the HW Belt, aside from all Couture's other winnings

Nog A Pride superstare Pre-Tuf Beat Timmeh for the interim belt.
Lesnar Beat Couture for the belt
Mir beat Nog for the interim

None of these fighters were produced by TUF Invalid

D) Rich Franklin was a dominant MW Before TUF and was beaten by Anderson Silva Who was never on TUF invalid

E) Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans are the only two TUF Produced UFC Champions to have started their careers on TUF. Rashad ended Griffin's reign which was in turn ended by Machida

Ergo Your analysis is both full of shit and inaccurate at best. This is why your name is purple.

RapeChoke · 07-03-2009, 04:54 PM

TUF dominance?

**fullerene** · 07-04-2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

ROFL Retard for agreeing to a troll post

A) GSP WW Champ, Was big before TUF, was shown very very little on TUF4, beat MAtt Hughes actually for the title, who was very popular and well known before TUF

Lost to Matt Serra, who was around before TUF and then beat him again. While all appeared on TUF. GSP was an assistant coach, Hughes 2x Coach, Penn Coach 1x Contestant 1X

The coaches are not groomed or produced by Tuf rather marketed Via Tuf because Zuffa chooses to market its better fighters to generate more interest in the sport.

Best foot forward approach....moving on

B) BJ Penn, had beaten Matt Hughes and held the WW Before Tuf and had fought for the title 3 previous occassions before TUF Came along...invalid argument.

C) HW Randy Couture Hall of Fame Pre-Tuf Beat Tim Sylvia, Never on TUF For the HW Belt, aside from all Couture's other winnings

Nog A Pride superstare Pre-Tuf Beat Timmeh for the interim belt.
Lesnar Beat Couture for the belt
Mir beat Nog for the interim

None of these fighters were produced by TUF Invalid

D) Rich Franklin was a dominant MW Before TUF and was beaten by Anderson Silva Who was never on TUF invalid

E) Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans are the only two TUF Produced UFC Champions to have started their careers on TUF. Rashad ended Griffin's reign which was in turn ended by Machida

Ergo Your analysis is both full of shit and inaccurate at best. This is why your name is purple.

Diego Sanchez + Kenny Florian = /thread