Ufc Does Not Want Fedor - Page 2

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by THE OMEN

I just explained to you that Affliction cards, with the exception of Fedor, suck ur moms balls dry and aren't worth a penny. And their marketting sucks too. Wich is why people don't buy their PPV. I never do and Im a Fedor fan. Cuz Fedor is the only good fighter on the card and I can watch the only fight I wanna see, Fedor, online fight after the PPV..wich is why affliction doesn't sell..

Fedor plus UFC marketting, plus a stacked card = GOLD

U wanna keep going faggot? Cuz I can PWN u all day on this...

UFC fucking sells with or without fedor, moron.

That's like putting matt linland on UFC 100 and when it goes on to be a huge sucess, saying Matt Lindland plus a stacked card = GOLD.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

The whole point of having a big name draw is that the name sells pay per views.

How many people do you think brought Brock vs Mir, or Coture vs Brock, for the undercard, moron?

Fedor cannot sell big matches, thus he is worthless to the UFC.

Accept it, I'm using proof, you are using bullshit, retard logic.

KING OMEN · 07-01-2009, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

Hahhahahaa yeah because he did wonders for Pride and Affliction

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Not even 100,000 buys, chumpstain, when UFC gets around a million for a big PPV.

To be honest with u I could give a flying fuck about u faggots. If u don't know who Fedor is then u can just go fuck ur mother. And your doing nothing but adding to my point that Dana White doesn't wanna sign Fedor.....

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Swizzie

It's hard promoting a fighter who doesn't speak English

It's even harder when the person has an unimpressive look

Anderson Silva has become a pretty big name though.

You have a point but if the fighter is good enough, it doesn't matter too much.

KING OMEN · 07-01-2009, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

UFC fucking sells with or without fedor, moron.

That's like putting matt linland on UFC 100 and when it goes on to be a huge sucess, saying Matt Lindland plus a stacked card = GOLD.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

The whole point of having a big name draw is that the name sells pay per views.

How many people do you think brought Brock vs Mir, or Coture vs Brock, for the undercard, moron?

Fedor cannot sell big matches, thus he is worthless to the UFC.

Accept it, I'm using proof, you are using bullshit, retard logic.

Ur using speculation faggot, I garantee u Fedors first fight in the UFC, if he ever has one willl do just fine in sale numbers.....and comparing Linland to the great Fedor?

go bite the bag faggot.

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by THE OMEN

To be honest with u I could give a flying fuck about u faggots. If u don't know who Fedor is then u can just go fuck ur mother. And your doing nothing but adding to my point that Dana White doesn't wanna sign Fedor.....

No, the point is Fedor wants Dana to give him all his demands, and WHY should Dana, when Fedor is an unknown who can't draw to the mainstream crowd?

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by THE OMEN

Ur using speculation faggot, I garantee u Fedors first fight in the UFC, if he ever has one willl do just fine in sale numbers.....and comparing Linland to the great Fedor?

go bite the bag faggot.

Actually, I used Affliction's numbers. Is that speculation to you?

(Oh and BTW Fedor did have to cheat to beat lindland).

Wow.

Were you oxygen deprived as a child?

If so, they still gave you too much.

KING OMEN · 07-01-2009, 12:43 AM

shut up faggot idc, It's Fedor bitch.

Swizzie · 07-01-2009, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

UFC fucking sells with or without fedor, moron.

That's like putting matt linland on UFC 100 and when it goes on to be a huge sucess, saying Matt Lindland plus a stacked card = GOLD.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

The whole point of having a big name draw is that the name sells pay per views.

How many people do you think brought Brock vs Mir, or Coture vs Brock, for the undercard, moron?

Fedor cannot sell big matches, thus he is worthless to the UFC.

Accept it, I'm using proof, you are using bullshit, retard logic.

No you're not, you're only partially right

When Randy left the UFC and went to fight Inoue and Overeem, he didn't draw any attantion either

Randy getting backed by the UFC's promotional system is what made him a draw

If GSP left the UFC and fought in Elitexc, you would watch his PPV numbers take a nosedive

KING OMEN · 07-01-2009, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

Actually, I used Affliction's numbers. Is that speculation to you?

(Oh and BTW Fedor did have to cheat to beat lindland).

Wow.

Were you oxygen deprived as a child?

If so, they still gave you too much.

Affliction isn't UFC.

U act like it's fact that if Fedor signs the event will fail, when we all know it's the opposite.

go Farrah Fauccet yourself and get buttfucked to death u homo.

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Swizzie

No you're not, you're only partially right

When Randy left the UFC and went to fight Inoue and Overeem, he didn't draw any attantion either

Randy getting backed by the UFC's promotional system is what made him a draw

If GSP left the UFC and fought in Elitexc, you would watch his PPV numbers take a nosedive

That is true, but Pride was also a big name, and failed miserably in the US (a ppv with a brand name and Fedor headlining it).

You make a good point, but it's been proven that even with a big brand, Fedor could not draw a dime in the US.

Plus, those fights were before TUF, weren't they? I could be wrong but if they are, UFC didn't explode , and Chuck and Randy weren't draws, untill the show drew attention to them, so if they were before TUF, he wasn't a huge draw at the time anyway.

Swizzie · 07-01-2009, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

Anderson Silva has become a pretty big name though.

You have a point but if the fighter is good enough, it doesn't matter too much.

Uhmm, yes it does

Anderson's probably the best fighter the UFC has and he's not nearly getting the same numbers as GSP

The reason is because the Brazilian fanbase is not as lucrative as the Canadian one

You have to combine The fighter+the fighter's nationality+the UFC's promotional team

GSP sells so much because he is Canada's big boy and the UFC knows it

Skills alone don't seel fights

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by THE OMEN

Affliction isn't UFC.

U act like it's fact that if Fedor signs the event will fail, when we all know it's the opposite.

go Farrah Fauccet yourself and get buttfucked to death u homo.

Learn to read, you piece of anal leak.

I said the event would be a sucess WITH OR WITHOUT Fedor, his apperance would be totally irrelevant either way.

KING OMEN · 07-01-2009, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

That is true, but Pride was also a big name, and failed miserably in the US (a ppv with a brand name and Fedor headlining it).

You make a good point, but it's been proven that even with a big brand, Fedor could not draw a dime in the US.

Plus, those fights were before TUF, weren't they? I could be wrong but if they are, UFC didn't explode , and Chuck and Randy weren't draws, untill the show drew attention to them, so if they were before TUF, he wasn't a huge draw at the time anyway.

You don't understand how big UFC could make Fedor, especially consedering the fact that he's a fuckin MMA wizard and a undefeated HW champion..

fuck I wanna put hands on u and rip ur jaw clean off ur ignorant faggot face!!!

Swizzie · 07-01-2009, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by JSPoole

That is true, but Pride was also a big name, and failed miserably in the US (a ppv with a brand name and Fedor headlining it).

You make a good point, but it's been proven that even with a big brand, Fedor could not draw a dime in the US.

PRIDE failed because the Japanese business model is COMPLETELY different from what the US people are attracted and used to

This is also the reason Dana is so cautious to make a move in Japan, they operate differently there (read the book, "inside corporate Japan" and you'll get an idea of HOW much)

Affliction was not a big FIGHTING brand in the US

It was built off of a clothing company and even with billions (they only had millions), you can't become a big brand overnight

People need to believe your hype, believe in your fighters, slowly you need to get a following

Affliction was doomed from the start

Because the people in charge were greedy and reckless with how they spent money

For Fedor it didn't matter, he just wanted his cash, fuck the organization

JSPoole · 07-01-2009, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Swizzie

Uhmm, yes it does

Anderson's probably the best fighter the UFC has and he's not nearly getting the same numbers as GSP

The reason is because the Brazilian fanbase is not as lucrative as the Canadian one

You have to combine The fighter+the fighter's nationality+the UFC's promotional team

GSP sells so much because he is Canada's big boy and the UFC knows it

Skills alone don't seel fights

Again, you make a point, but Silva still does decent numbers for a non english speaking, skinny fighter with an unimpressive look.

I didn't say he was a huge draw, just that he is doing well considering those factors.