Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

I held illegal underground shows in the late 90's when I was told by the CSAC to go to a reservation where it was legal. By doing this I helped further the shady promoter stereotype and added fuel to all the fire lit by all the John McCain's of the world who said MMA was unregulated. I also said there was no need for Athletic commissions proving that the dollar is more important then a sanctionning body which looks after fighter health and safety. I Then filed a lawsuit against the Largest MMA promotion, hoping I would bring down the one company that put MMA in the spotlight effectively ridding the media of its Major source of MMA and preventing all the new fans of the sport a view of MMA and thus ensuring its growth is limited but my pockets stay lined. I also tried to steal credit for as many ideas as I could to again keep my pockets full. Next I started my own MMA clothing line and then used fighter's likeness and videos to make the perception that those fighters endorse my products without having to sponsor them or give them a cent!! What good is a fighter you can't exploit right??? I also signed up to half a dozen Internet forums and spammed the hell out of any good and logical discussion about MMA with my crazy tales and clothing line advertisements until I was banned from all of them. Then I began spewing tales about The OAC and Nevada State Comissions and other subjects I have no idea about, then I went and doctored some truths, got in a few name calling matches and had myself a shitty ass rat-Taco, watched Porn of Prince nail some whore I used to be married to who got sick of my pathetic BS and called it a day.

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

What do you mean Amateur will happen?? You have been claiming all along Amateur MMA was legal since 2000. Dick tuck anyone?

Originally Posted by kazja13

I will adress one great issue. They weren't looking after the fighter. They were telling promoters to do fights and let them know who the winners were. Closed fist strikes to the head. The promoter would miss match the fights so he could predict the winner. This was on the ones where the fighters wouldn't agrre to fixed fights. Some would some would'nt. No blood test no ambulance, just to make a buck.

LMFAO no amateur mma now allowed in the State. Fighters first fight is pro. Frank Shamrock vs Ceaser Gracie what a unsafe match up. Ceaser never had a real MMA fight fighting the best in the world first fight. Very safe. LMFAO more

Originally Posted by Urijah Fubar

Ceaser Gracie could have said no but I bet he didnt cause he thought that cause he was a gracie he was great. so dont blaim that fight on the promoters the other guy can say no

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

Agree Also Kazja you coulda had all the MMA you wanted to on a reservation and promoted the hell outta it made mints. The CSAC told you to do that you didn't.

Also The fixed fights you may have a point and I'm sure some promoters did that. Others I'm sure just lied about predictions had real fights and nobody really bothered them either way.

Originally Posted by kazja13

True Fixed and Unsafe fights. What a joke.


MMA was approved why go to Indian Reservations. The CSAC was telling most of them if you do MMA we won't give you boxing.

Originally Posted by Urijah Fubar

I love you Dean

oh and Kazja was pwnt again

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

Umm fights on reservations didn't have to be fixed. But you're right there would be no sanctionning body there to organize the details for Fighter safety...

But Hey doesn't that mean the CSAC is good??
Isn't this coming from the man who said MMA needs to Sanctionning body???

The same man who once shit on a promotion on the UG B/c they cancelled a show due to their cage breaking? Who suggested they coulda just tied it together with a rope and risked fighters hurting themselves on it? (Ram a guy through a cage door tied with a shitty rope).

Fixed fights didn't necessairly have to be fixed either if you could "Predict a winner" and the CSAC didn't follow up to see if you're right. You can't predict the winner of a fixed fight. Its fixed you know who the winner will be. They gave you loopholes through suggestion. They weren't allowed to tell you outright. You were to retarded to pick up on what everyone else did. And whose fault is that?

Originally Posted by kazja13

True Fixed and Unsafe fights. What a joke.


MMA was approved why go to Indian Reservations. The CSAC was telling most of them if you do MMA we won't give you boxing.

Originally Posted by kazja13

great safe! some fixed and some not fixed lmfao Fixed at Indian Reservations also. Ceaser Najera and Antonio Barrera @ Fantasy Springs.

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

It wasn't approved:

That tape could be from 1997 for all we know:

Your case:

1.Your word it was approved
2.your word you got a license you can't produce
3.an undated phone call suggesting a reservation

My case:

1.Documents from the OAL Showing CSAC regulatory package was rejected, Dec 22, 2000

2.Permanent Injunction filed against you by Department of Consumer Affairs, CSAC in Los Angeles Superior Court for you doing ILLEGAL MMA events.

3. Factual facts and minute meetings when MMA was actually approved in 2006.

Think about it, You claim the CSAC made a regulatory package that had to be passed by the Office of Administrative LAw (OAL) and Department of Consumer Affairs. You claim this was done and then MMA became legal.

Please then answer the following Questions:

ASo why would the OAL have meeting minutes and decision documents from their rejection of said regulatory package??

BWhy Did the Department of Consumer Affairs sign of on an injunction banning you and stating MMA was illegal if they had just approved it??

CHow can a judge ban you for doing something illegal?

DWhy would the CSAC try to stop a guy who, as you claim to have, helped them design the very regulatory package and get the ball rolling in the first place.

• Illegal MMA is CSAC wasting time resources stopping it
• Legal MMA is revenue for CSAC through licenses etc

EWhy should we take the word of a guy who has a criminal record, been discharged from the army for breaking rules, and has the need for 5-6 aliases when doing buisness???

Originally Posted by Dean of Lean "Anti-Troll"

Not the best solution but CSAC's hands were tied by a law they didn't make.

You want legal go to an Indian Reservation.

So answer me this:

How can you say there should be no sanctionning bodies on the Underground and say the CSAC must go. Then Fault them for not being at Fights that took place on an Indian reservation?

That makes no sense you can't have it both ways!!

What makes your Underground Kage Kombat events that took place in back alleys and clubs safer then an organized event at an Indian Reservation??

You contradict yourself so much your arguments don't even make sense anymore Hahaha Sheikh, El Duderino are you guys seriously reading this stuff hahaha

Originally Posted by kazja13

Post me one CSAC license. Even the commission says the receipt is your license.